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Cheapskate Cambs County Council "Resurfacing"

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18 Sep 2012 14:49 #1 by alec
This is an absolute disgrace. Loads of roads have been absolutely ruined by Cambs CC "resurfacing" them by spraying tar and gravel in the last couple of weeks. They do it because it's dirt cheap and nobody ever complains - they can do miles in a day or two but it results in a surface that's absolute sh@t and will stay that way for years. They rely on road users to complete the job of creating a consolidated surface and in the meantime it's like riding off-road on loose gravel - it's dangerous, the chips damage your bike, and it's painfully slow and uncomfortable. They just spray over all the existing potholes and cracks which appear again in days. Their bloody machinery with big tyres leaves tread marks in the surface - it's cr@p. I'm going to write to the highways dept at CCC - it won't do any good apart from letting steam off but if a few write then they might begin to take some notice. I am going to point off that if I come off my bike or motorbike as a result of this I am going to sue them - the surface is not fit for purpose.

Roads done recently include St Neots past the rugby club, Abbotsley on the TT course, down the hill from Stonely to Pertenhall (really scary especially since drifts of chippings have collected at the bottom of the hill), Bushmead going south, the road from the Perry road down to Grafham, from St Neots through the Offords and many more.

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18 Sep 2012 15:46 #2 by feef
also from Eltisley towards Waresley (i turned off towards Gransden so I'm not sure how much further on it goes)


It is a horrible surface. Another, albeit minor, frustration is that they often leave the 20mph 'loose surface' signs out until they biodegrade naturally rather than removing them when the surface has finally cleared up a bit.

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18 Sep 2012 16:46 #3 by Chrisbpr
Let us know how you get on Alec... The bit between Godmanchester and Offord is like a three mile cattle grid ! :angry:

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19 Sep 2012 09:44 #4 by GarethS
Morning all,
For those that were along last Sunday I'm the chap with the Fuji who Alistair persuaded to come along the previous day.

I've lodged a complaint with Cambridgeshire County Council with pretty much similar comments to Alec. I will also likely be following up with the local council and the Huntingdonshire MP (and advised CCC that I will be doing this if dissatisfied with their response). Again it's one of these where the more people complain the more likely something will be done.

I'm thinking there will be some areas knocked back as being Bedfordshire County Council's responsibility (or pass the buck to Huntingdonshire District Council) and wondering if there is any overlap between the areas St Neots CC rides and our neighbours (St Ives, Beds Road) ride. Again in the name of collective action on these things.

Gareth
PS Sorry both my parents worked in local government in Kent so I have absolutely no faith in the system ...

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19 Sep 2012 11:06 #5 by alec
Hi Gareth, good to see you on-line. They are supposed to come along at least once and possibly several times after a couple of weeks with a sweeper to collect the loose chippings and hopefully leave a properly consolidated surface. All the roads that I have noticed being ruined are in Cambs and I don't think it's a HDC thing. It's a disgusting, shoddy process but it's really cheap and that's why most councils use it.

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19 Sep 2012 12:27 #6 by wee stop steve
Replied by wee stop steve on topic Re: Cheapskate Cambs County Council "Resurfacing"
Totally agree Alec. They "resurfaced" St.Peters Rd in Huntingdon outside my work a month ago. This road accomadates alot of traffic but is still completely useless now. Fellow cyclists at work are making the same complaints about their roads in March,Peterborough and Huntingdon. Can't believe they can do such a sh@t job compared to recently surfaced sections such as Perry to Gt.Staughton which is brilliant. Anyway must shut up and get my cross bike out to commute through Offord to work!

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19 Sep 2012 16:48 #7 by feef
Is it worth dropping a line to your MP? I've found Djanogly to be pretty good at responding to issues I've raised in the past

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19 Sep 2012 21:58 #8 by Tony
I'm glad someone brought this up, I was under the impression that they were going to surface the road properly but this is not the case? Great..

I live at the bottom of Longsands Road and the nearest 'out' into the country is down Priory Hill which has been done as has the Gt Paxton side of Paxton hill. No high speed descents on those I can assure you.


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20 Sep 2012 11:08 #9 by GarethS
Just had a response from someone at CCC that it's "an accepted practice and provides a suitable surface for all road users" and that they can't control the speed of the drivers as it's only an advisory.

Sent them a response based on their "I hope this is an adequate explanation" pointing out that it's not given they say it is reliant on both the traffic and sweeping of the road afterwards (the latter of which we know is insufficient).

I used to live on a what was classed as a less heavily trafficed road (similar to Bushmead Road once you get west of the A1). When it came to the road being improved even though it was only subject to minor cracks and some small potholes (what CCC say dressing the surface is good for) we had a letter from Kent County Council explaining there would be some additional disruption as they resurfacing rather than dressing the surface (i.e. tearing a layer back and putting a new one down) as there was insufficient traffic for dressing to work adequately (i.e. we'd end up with either too rough a surface because the chippings settle but are not pressed in, or when the sweeper comes not enough chips have settled).

If I can have a list of affected roads (and worst areas) I'll try and get out with my camera on Saturday to get some pictures.

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20 Sep 2012 11:53 #10 by feef
An intersting blog in agreement from a legal bod:

cycling.access-legal.co.uk/2011/04/loose...ers-to-cyclists.html

Seems that cyclists in Norwich were successful in lobbying the council to do it properly on at least one road:
www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news/cyclists_we...bike_route_1_1477110

And others who complained, were heard but no change:
www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/s/2097957_cycli...ouncils_road_repairs

And a bit more behind the surface dressing process:
www.highwaysmaintenance.com/sdpics.htm

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20 Sep 2012 17:43 #11 by GarethS
Evening all,
Decided to have a check of the local roads (Eaton Socon) on my way back from MK where I was for work today.

Little Staughton Road - Colmworth north to Bushmead Road crossroads has been surface dressed but appears to have been swept recently
Colmworth Road - north of Bushmead crossroads also appears to have been surface dressed but as I turn right along Bushmead I didn't see how far this went
Bushmead Road - currently only been dressed from Staploe Road junction (red house) to just west of the A1 bridge (as that's where Bedfordshire CC jurisdiction ends)

All of the above are the remit of Beds CC rather than CCC hence my suggestion we may want to see what roads near us Beds Road CC use (I've seen them come into Eaton Socon on a club ride before along Bushmead).

The chap who responded to me from CCC says he has carried out an inspection of Offord Road recently and a first sweep had been carried out with a second sweep due and then road markings will be reinstated. Guess we need to keep an eye on this and report it if it is still an unsuitable surface.

Hope the above about the roads the Beds side of the county border helps anyone out on their own training or the people planning group rides.

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25 Sep 2012 21:25 #12 by rostlr
Gents, just imagine you're on some crappy surfaced Classics race route and it'll be OK

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